Thursday, June 28, 2007

Now introducing "Ms. Information!"

I found this hateful Christian video on YouTube. Good ol Frank the moron posted it too. It is full of hate and propaganda. I had a free day so I thought I would dedicate some time to tearing it apart. Enjoy!



Can’t find much on the Byzantines from 300AD to 1000AD but by the video’s own admission they were catholic and Catholics count as a religious group not Atheist.

The inquisition from 1000 AD to 2000 AD was also led by the Catholic Church.
The Video claims that in 1789 AD 5000 clergy were martyred by Atheist in France. A citation is given. A thorough reading through this link will show that not only is the arbitrary number of 5000 clergy murdered completely made up but also that this wasn’t an act of atheism exclusively. (Although the writings of some liberal atheist were used as justification.) As soon as the secularist took over they immediately began establishing a new religious order and went as far as forcing Catholic priest to take a vow to support them. “The Civil Constitution of the Clergy. This bill enabled the government to control all religious proceedings. Pastors and bishops were to be elected and paid by the government, and all clergymen were required to take an oath of fidelity to this new Constitution.” If these were atheist why did they immediately establish a religious order? Ultimately the revolution was a backlash against religious oppression. This is the part that apologist like to conveniently leave out when telling this story. So I will take the arbitrary number and add it to the Death toll since they are the one’s trying to claim it. Death toll (Unknown thousands)

1871 20,000 clergy and believers murdered at the hands of Atheist in Paris? Well according to the link given in the video these murders were also a back lash against religious oppression. There doesn’t seem to be anything pointing to Atheist as the cause. It looks like another case of religious induced violence. But let’s take a closer look. I would appear that the reason that the clergy were killed was not because of Atheistic ideals but rather because they were acting as a sanctuary for people fleeing battles between the French army and Prussian army. The Unfortunate Priest and Clergy men who were trying to protect innocent civilians were needlessly slaughtered. It had nothing to do with their belief in God though. The body count was estimated to be around 30,000 not 20,000 and were unfortunate casualties of war, not a product of Christian or Atheistic ideologies.

In 1917 AD 1,000,000 Russian Orthodox believers are martyred by Bolsheviks in the USSR? 1918 60,000 more by Bolsheviks in the Republic of Georgia? OK, first off the death toll was 1.5 million and secondly it had nothing to do with religion. Although the Marxist view has roots in atheism “it understands religion to have roots in oppression and alienation, Marxist political parties don't demand that their members or supporters are atheists too. So atheism was never included in the Bolsheviks' programme.” The real reason the massacre took place was because of the peasants refusal to sell their crops at 1/8th of the current market value, thus not allowing the Bolsheviks to support their communist agenda. In return the Bolsheviks starved the peasants to death in order to further their political aspirations.

There are a couple of frames now were the video claims the death of Catholics in Russia as aggression against Christians, even though the video started out by denouncing that Catholics are Christian. Anyways I don't feel it unnecessary to refute each one because I have already covered the ideology present and responsible for the atrocities in Russia during that time frame, and shown that they were not a product of Atheism.

In 1927 AD 600,000 all German origin Lutherans are killed by Stalin? Stalin of course was a known atheist but this particular instance was not a religious issue for him. It was a political one. What comes as more interesting though is that Stalin was working in tandem with the Jesuit’s also known as the” soldiers of Christ” who were actually the driving force behind convincing Stalin to use his army to “Liquidate their rival religion” of the Lutheran order!

1940 AD 150,000 people die in the Baltics? The Video doesn’t offer up who was responsible. It just leaves you to assume that it must be the Atheist! This was largely a result of German and Russian occupation during World War 2 though. It is common knowledge that the catalyst for World War 2 was Hitler who was a proclaimed, well I will let Hilter speak for himself. I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work. [Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

1944 5000 die as Christianity is attacked in Albania by Atheist? Christianity was actually attacked by the Balli Komb√ętar who were aligned with the Nazis(Christian) and received their weapons from the Italians. (Catholic)

1948 AD 70 Baptist leaders are martyred by Chinese Atheist? No information available, no citations. Appears to be made up!

1948 AD 2500 killed in prison in Hungarian persecution by Atheist? Wrong!

1949 AD 1.2 Million Tibetans Massacred by Atheistic Chinese Communist? The author of the video is not only redundant but seems to be assuming that all communist nations are automatically Atheist. Actually China largely subscribed to religion ofConfuciounism at the time of these atrocities. Seems like someone needs to do their homework. The Confucians ideals were of course taken out of context to justify such atrocities but that doesn’t seem to be to far out of the norm now does it?

Some more claims are made now about the Chinese in their confucionist stage.

Some claims about N. Korea, also confucionist

1959 AD 25 Million die in Atheistic “Great Leap Forward” in China? Once again, Not Atheist!

1959 AD 15,000 Christians killed by Atheist Castro in Cuba? Although I could not find any Evidence of Castro killing 15,000 Christians, I did find a great quote from the professed (Yet excommunicated) Catholic regarding his upbeat views of Christianity! “There is a great concurrence between Christianity's objectives and the ones we communists seek, between the Christian teachings of humility, austerity, selflessness and loving thy neighbor and what we might call the content of a revolutionary's life and behavior.”

1975-1979 2 Million slaughtered by Atheistic Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? Khmer Rouge, led by Pol Pot was indeed Atheistic and very much anti religion. The movement was largely based on and “inspired in part by Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, which he had witnessed, first-hand during a visit to Communist China,” which we all know by now to be founded in organized religion.

After all this mis-information and unwarranted rhetoric, the Video boldly proclaims “Why should we talk to you at all? Funny thing is we (Christians) are the majority. So why should we let you breathe another second?”

Every single point that was attempted to be made in this video regarding human atrocities is somehow rooted in religious belief and ideologies. This video promotes hate towards those that don’t conform to Christianity. Please open your eyes. No one has ever started a war over atheistic beliefs. Read your Bible (from any religion) and you will see justifications for killings, rapes, torture, and atrocities of all kind. Please, I urge you think with your mind. Demand evidence. Stop living on faith! Humanity is counting on you!

29 comments:

angelsdepart said...

I left this comment on Frank's page. It probably will not be approved!

"It's a cute video. Did you make it Frank? By the way all of the "made up assumptions" are refuted here. Taking notes from Fox news I see. When something bad happens just repackage it and blame it on the opposition!"

tina said...

I have forgotten Frank's page name.....

angelsdepart said...

atheism sucks, the link is in my favs!

Frank Walton said...

Hey angelsdepartsy. You should check out some of my videos, I'd recommend, Atheismsucks Confession and Mother Theresa Sucks
I think you'll see a side of me you havent seen. I've talked with you on my blog a bit.
Frank

angelsdepart said...

Frank Walton, You are clearly not the real Frank Walton of atheism sucks. Your profile is actually that of Frank Walton apologetics that instantly forwards to Frank's real site. If you are going to try to imitate a site you need to do a better job, because your's is obviously a fake. I understand that you are trying to discredit Frank but you are only making yourself look like a total idiot with your methods. Your videos are cute too, but not Frank! Nice try though!

Frank Walton said...

It looks better now, check it out.
Click my profile.

angelsdepart said...

Dude, I cannot stand Frank just as much as the next person, but what you are doing is sneaky and stupid. You are just as bad as him!

Frank Walton said...

Oh lighten up. were the same person.

angelsdepart said...

Dumb and dumber!

The Alpha said...

Wow...I like how the video seems to completely forget the KKK, the Atlantic Slave Trade, the annhilation of Native Americans, the Witch trials, etc. Additionally, in the aforementioned list I limited myself to actions of American Christians. I'd like to see that video narrowed to the actions of American atheists.

Frank Walton said...

It never surprises me that atheists will do everything they can to skip the fact that communist regimes count as an atheist atrocity. They wanted a secular society, genius.

the Real Frank Walton

PS I'll approve your comments the moment you start being rational, and not so much of an ass.

angelsdepart said...

No matter what excuses you make you are still censoring people simply because you do not like what they say, not because they are breaking any of your silly rules! Read the comment on this post by the Alpha. What happened there genius?

Frank Walton said...

*SHRUGS* Okay, include those, and guess what? Atheism is still responsible for the killing of more lives. Anyway, you're wrong, I would still include someone's comment even if they say something I dislike. If they break some of the rules though, the comment won't be allowed. But what you do, angelsdepart, is worse, you take my words, and put your parenthetical comments within it. That's a sissies way of debating.

angelsdepart said...

If I recall correctly the "parenthetical comments" were after you stopped responding. I know that you love to rant about how people always ignore you half way through a debate but you are guilty of the same thing. I am sorry if this offended you but you really need to stop crying about it. I have given you a chance to redeem yourself by agreeing to a formal debate. Now you can have your day!!!

Frank Walton said...

And so we'll have it. I'm glad you're stepping up to the plate. I'm going to have fun with this one.

Daddy Cool said...

I have $20 that Frank beats Angelsdepart.

Daddy Cool said...

Ha! See nobody is betting against me. I guess the odds are against you psychotic boy.

angelsdepart said...

Oops, Daddy Cool, You forgot to change to the Frank account with your last comment LOL, I will copy it in this comment so you can't delete it!!! HA ha ha ha

Daddy Cool said...
Ha! See nobody is betting against me. I guess the odds are against you psychotic boy.

July 13, 2007 8:21 PM

Maragon said...

Wow, that was so great.

Everyone knew that Daddy Cool was him, he's ADMITTED to it in the past, as I showed when I made that post about him.

I went ahead and screen shotted that.

Frank, you're so crazy, sweetheart.

Daddy Cool said...

Oh, my gosh, this is too funny. Yes, AngelsDepart, I said "See nobody is betting against me. I guess the odds are against you psychotic boy." You know why I said, "nobody is betting against me"? It's because nobody is going against me on my bet of $20 for Frank.

LOL! HAHAHAHAHA!

You so crazy!

Oh, man, whew! I haven't laughed that hard since I heard of the theory of evolution.

Daddy

Frank Walton said...

Wow, that was just... I mean, wow! Yes, that was rich, Daddy. Darn funny, too. As for you, psycho boy, please, tell the whole world about this, ok. Let everybody hear about it. I just made a post about this incident in my blog. You truly are my friend, psycho boy. *LONG SIGH* You make me so proud to be a Christian.

Frank Walton said...

And here's the link!

Maragon said...

You're not fooling anyone, Frank.

I've never met an atheist who takes your antics seriously or believes that your copy/paste arguments for your god are anything short of hysterical.

Try again, sweetie.

angelsdepart said...

LOL!

Daddy Cool said...
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Daddy Cool said...
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angelsdepart said...

Frank is being forced to post under one account only Link

Shawn Wilkinson said...

"I haven't laughed that hard since I heard of the theory of evolution."

Further proof that only the dumb and misinformed are associated with the anti-evolution position.

Frank Walton Sucks! said...

The only post about Frank Walton you will ever need to read.

Frank Walton atheism sucks atheismsucks.blogspot.com