here are the back and forth emails where Frank Walton tries a few times to get out of debating me. LOL He keeps bouncing around and is a bit hard to keep up with at times. I used to think he was retarded but now I am leaning towards him possibly being schizophrenic or having multiple personalities. He actually starts out seemingly normal and then gets crazier and crazier. Judge for yourself. If he ends up backing out I will post my opening statement for all to see.
Frank- I'm seeing if theologyweb.com will host and moderate our debate. I just emailed them so I'll get back to you.
Frank- Are you an agnostic or atheist or what?
Angels- Agnostic leaning towards atheist. What type of Christian are you? Lutheran, Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Charismatic, Pentecostal, Methodist, Orthodox, Presbyterian, congregational ect ect ect
Frank- You're an agnostic. Just great. Seriously, JK I find those initials very ironic, by the way, do you really want to have a debate?
Angels- Let me know if you are planning on backing out. It would save me some valuable time. Could you please answer my question about your affiliation? BTW I will be debating from the position of an Atheist.
Frank- I'm an orthodox partial-preterist.
Frank- You will be debating on the position that you are an atheist, yet you just told me you were also an agnostic, oh, but, uh, you lean toward atheism. What in the world are you? Do you even know? I suppose a theist who leans toward atheism would make sense to you.
Angels-Frank, I was really hoping to have a civil debate with you. Are you capable of this. How quickly do you need email responses before you freak out on your page? Please tell me that you are willing to have an open and honest debate. I see the insultfest is starting, I would like to avoid that. I have seen some of your debates before and you have moments that are very enlightning. Strawman attacks are not neccesary. I will be civil if you will be. Please don't make stuff up.
Frank- 2 can play at this game: Why are you playing innocent? You mean to tell me you were being civil just now? Why are you making things up? If you really want a debate, Angelpoo, don't you think the best thing to do is to actually be as cordial as possible? If so, then why aren't you?
Angels-I am ready to post, just waiting on you. You have 17 minutes to respond to this email. LOL just kidding :)
Frank- I'm still waiting for the forum people to get back to me to see if they'll host and moderate our debate.
Angels- Here is a comment from you on my page
"PS I'll approve your comments the moment you start being rational, and not so much of an ass."
Here is the comment you refuse to post
"Dude, we were on a label, how clear can I be? BTW I responded to your email 17 minutes after you sent it. What type of turn around do you need? I understand if you are not going to post my comments from now on. I would be worried about how I look if i were you. When did I say that you denied that I was once a Christian and deconverted? You are so wierd!"
Doesn't seem to be irrational, hmmmmm I wonder why you wont post it? Maybe because it exposes your lie!
An agnostic can lean towards being an atheist because an agnostic is saying that there is no proof for or against the existance of god. While he might feel that one side is more or less correct he feels that he has not seen enough evidence to commit to either.
I am not scared to have any of your comments on my blog. Why are you scared to have mine on yours? It is interesting that you want to attack me on your page without giving me a chance to respond and defend myself, and you said that you don't take lessons from FOX news!
Frank- You never answered: do you abide by the rules of the debate? the word counts, etc.?
Angels- Sure, sounds fair
Frank- Who says I won't allow you to comment, Angel? You don't need my blog to make a comment. Is it too hard and difficult for you to go mention your comment in your own blog? Why act like such an immature baby? Really.
Angels-I did put it in my own blog. When I attack you there I will let you defend yourself there. Just wish you were man enough to do the same thing
Frank- I would like the debate to be about the existence of God. It would be titled: "Does God exist?" If you don't know whether God exists or not, then why debate?
Angels- My opening is complete, if you want to back out then ask nicely!
Frank- If you put it in your own blog, then why do you keep acting like a baby about it? Didn't you study psychology? I would suggest you take more of it. I'm man enough to allow comments in my blog, but I'm rational enough to see which ones are actually okay or not. Anyway, again, I see that you put your parenthetical notes within my statements. *SIGH* True cowardice.
Angels- And not allowing comments isn't? Nice Frank, very nice!
Frank- If you could wait then be patient, angelpoo. I'm too busy rocking out to your oh so gnarly music. Dude, I'm serious, you're rreeeaallllyyy good. It's the stuff of legends like Sonny and Cher's "I got you babe."
Angels- Hey you should tell that to Chris *********. He is a big fan of your work, you are in his top friends on myspace. He is the singer and songwriter. He has won a Dove award and is kind of a big deal in apologetics. Did I mention that two of the three bands were on labels. Oh yea, I did, but you didn't allow that comment did you? Cowardice is right! LOL
Frank- If it sounds fair why do you keep emailing me over and over again about the debate? If you so desperately want, go ahead and put your opening up in your blog, since you brag about having it done already. Or do you want to wait for a formal and moderated forum to do this? I find it hard to trust you to actually follow the rules. So far, you've just been acting like a coward with your cowardly antics.
Angels- I am loving your emails, keep them coming please. If we are doing a formal debate with a moderator then wouldn't it give you an unfair advantage to see mine first? You are the one that said that they go up at the same time. Don't be mad because you're not done yet. I am ready for you!
Frank- Not allowing comments that are rational, yes.
Angels- So you don't allow comment that are rational? I don't get you Frank
Frank- He won a dove award? Dude, the "dove" awards suck. I don't care too much for "Christian" music. I'm on record for saying that, genius.
Frank- I love your emails, too! Yeah, I suggested we go at the same time. But you're as desperate as a child who wants his candy to start the debate, so if you want, put up your opening. I don't care what you do. And how would putting your opening up first be unfair. Many debates start with an individual starting first. Boy, are you desperate to find fault in me. Go put this email in your post, pscyo boy.
Angels- Just letting you know I am ready Frank. try to keep it civil. This crybaby act does not look good!
Frank- Woops, I meant "irrational". That was a type-o. I thought you would get that at least, psycho boy. Thanks though. Frank
Angels- Of course. Sorry for not reading in between the lines. I will try better to figure out what you actually meant to type in future emails and post. My bad!
Frank- Then stop crying like a baby, psycho boy. How many times do I have to keep telling you that? I know you're ready. You've told me that over a hundred times already. Yet every time I tell you, you have to wait for a moderator (which you're cool with), you impatiently send me email over email. And cry and cry, again, like a little baby.
Angels- Ha ha ha. That's awesome coming from the guy who posted this
"I insist you make further comments in your own blog for now on, Angel.. I know you're only here to act like an infinitely perpetual ass. By the way, I sent you about 2 emails on debating and I haven't heard from you yet. oh, but you do have time to comment here, don't you? Whatever."
You are probably my favorite Christian!
Frank- Thank you, psycho boy. So when I tell you to "be patient" it doesn't mean to send me an endless amount of emails rushing me, okay? You have to keep reading between the lines.
Angels- I have sent you one email back for each one that you have sent me. LOL I will post them in order so you can see!
Frank- Thanks, psycho boy. You're probably my favorite stalker next to Ted Bell. Now, *that's* a stalker who just can't leave me alone. Let me tell ya!
Frank- Great! And I responded in kind to all the emails you sent me. Tell your readers I said "hi!", psycho boy.